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Petition to change the name "rheumatoid arthritis" Options
helen-g-1
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:57:05 PM Quote
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I've been thinking of suggesting we start a petition to change the name of the disease, so that it doesn't get confused with osteoarthritis. So I've been looking at the No. 10 petition website. I don't think we would necessarily have to suggest the new name - we could say that we'd like the international rheumatology experts to think of a new name. However, if the name were to get changed, it would probably have to be an international change. The US has a petition for a name change running on a kind of environmental / health site which has only just started. If people in this forum, and also NRAS, think this is a good idea we could perhaps start a No 10 petition and get an email chain / Facebook thing going.
I dare say the NRAS stationery order person has just fainted at the thought of a name change but ironically it would be a great achievement for NRAS!.
I notice the US site suggests links to Facebook and Twitter. We could do this, but direct traffic to the No 10 site. (Have to be after Xmas as they are currently not setting up new ones).
Anyone interested in setting up a petition? Shall we contact the Americans? Could we get Rheumatoid Arthritis Guy involved?
Or am I singing a lonely solo /stirring up a hornets' nest /annoying people / bringing up something that has already been nixed?
I throw this topic open for discussion!
Helen

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#2 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:18:58 PM Quote
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Hi Helen

I agree that RA conjurys up images of slightly achy joints to people. Artheritis and Rheumatisim to the lay person is interchangeable. I describe my illness as an immune or systemic disorder/problem. Are there any popular names? Also I read somewhere might have been on teh forum that MS effects less people but its better known and understood than RA. I wonder what the MS organisation did - might be worth finding out what they or similar chronic illness charities did.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:25:02 PM Quote
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My GP and consultant always call it rheumatoid DISEASE now.

Doreen xx
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#4 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 10:14:14 AM Quote
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Hi,

I agree with you. People just think that we have a few aches and pains and usually tell you that they have similar. It would be good to have a name that describes the pain etc we have to go through.

Jayne
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 10:34:00 AM Quote
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I agree we should change the name but I think the first part should be kept, as it says what it means, Rheumatoid is also a solid name it is the second part the public have trouble with and I have a second problem called repetative sympathetic disorder, which means the severe pain I have is from the nerves and is continuous. and people understand I have some problem which is unusal due to the name. So yes lets push the idea, it will be a long haul but I think you will get a lot of backing and we would need some big names to help plus the team who work so hard on our behalf from the NRAS, without them at the back of us helping then we go nowhere. Get the NRAS backing first then move on.
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#6 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 11:12:11 AM Quote
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I have just been diagnosed in the last 3 weeks. my consultant kept saying that i had inflammation, rheumatoid, rheumatoid inflammation and wear and tears. But he never referred to my pains as Rheumatoid Arthritis. I asked him if the wear and tears were due to osteaoarthritis? It is only then, that he said no, it is rheumatoid athritis!! Then, i realised that i could be in trouble !! About changing the name, i agree. In those little weeks, everyone i have talked to have not understood. They all think that i have a few aches and pains and don't know the difference between osteoarthritis and Rheumatoid Arthritis. The major problem is at work, as this confusion prevents colleagues and managers to give the help and the empathy that would help me cope better at work. I don't mean by that pitty but just a bit of space on bad days !!
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#7 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 11:23:23 AM Quote
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Hi Linda

First - welcome to the forum but I'm sad you have been diagnosed with RA.

Could I suggest that you ask NRAS for some of their excellent booklets and take them in to work for your managers to read?

I never tell anyone I have Rheumatoid Arthritis - when people ask, I say I have a disease of the immune system. They then ask questions so I don't get the "my granny's uncle had it his right big toe joint and cured it by eating berries from the third tree on the right in the Hundred Acre Wood" crap!

Please keep in touch and let us know how it all goes.

Love Jeanxxxxx
Rebecca D
#8 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 12:29:09 PM Quote
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I agree with Doreen, my consultant calls this condition Rheumatoid Disease too. That's what I say to people when they ask what is wrong with me. People seem to think we just have a few aches and pains but this is a serious immune sytem disease.

Best wishes
Rebecca
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#9 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 12:53:31 PM Quote
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Welcome Linda and sorry to hear that you have RA.

Thank you Helen for raising the subject of changing the disease's name.

I agree it would be a good idea if we could get the name of the illness we suffer from changed, I too am sick of having to correct or explain to people what our illness is, and that it is not just suffering from "a few aching joints that your Grandma or Aunt used to have or has " - the common perception and understanding that I, and most of us get to hear.

Not sure if it was raised before, but changing the name might be difficult because of the nature and complexity of the disease. I've often heard RA being referred to as a multi-systems disease that is also on a spectrum: mild-too moderate, or severe. However, I do think we should retain the rheumatoid part. How about Rheumatic multi system immune disease (RMSID), or is this too long winded? Or we could have a list of the most favoured names, the one with the most votes wins?

The next problem we may encounter is one of agreement and finding global support from academics, medics, and voluntary organisations willing to provide support and back a national/international campaign. Perhaps we could enlist someone famous with RA to put their face and name behind the campaign?

We could look at other conditions where the name has been changed to see how it was done? For example, mongolism changed to Down's Syndrome. I know this was a pretty obvious one and did so for obvious reasons.

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Barbara
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HellyC
#10 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 1:11:01 PM Quote
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I've had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis for 32yrs and over the years it has had many names.... When I was first diagnosed (just before my 3rd birthday) it was called JCA (juvenile chronic arthritis) or stills disease... In the USA it was referred to as JRA (juvenile rheumatoid arthritis) but then in approx 2005 it was changed worldwide to JIA (juvenile idiopathic arthritis) because whereas arthritis means inflammation of the joints, in juvenile arthritis it can affect the eyes and internal organs...

Quite confusing already isn't it?? Confused

Personally I would say keep the name rheumatoid arthritis..... yes it is a disease but just as when you tell people you have arthritis they seem surprised because you're not 80yrs old.... when you tell people its a disease, they seem to step away as if its contagious...

If I tell someone I have stills disease or JRA, they will still ask the question... whats that? If I then tell them its a form of rheumatoid arthritis, I will still get that look.....

Huh

I don't think a name change is going to make that stop....

Many years ago if you heard the word cancer..... you'd think terminal but because of charities like Cancer Research UK raising their profile and their supporters raising awareness, you no longer think that... you see people of all ages talking about how cancer has affected them, and how survival rates are forever increasing...

So rather than change the name.... why don't we change peoples perception, raise awareness that arthritis isn't just for the elderly...


ETA - in fact... I have a couple of ideas.... but will need your help......

Think of a scenario when you've had to tell someone you have rheumatoid arthritis and the reaction you got.... don't need long stories just a few sentences....

Helly x

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lizziemouse
#11 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 2:55:41 PM Quote
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Hello there Helly... what does ETA mean? xx
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#12 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 3:15:51 PM Quote
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Like Helly I have had RA since childhood. When I was very first dx it was known as 'Stills disease' but then became known as JRA (although we didn't live in America!).

I would LOVE the name to be changed but as Doreen says, most rheumies now refer to it as rheumatoid disease anyway. I would like it to be changed to this as it retians the rheumatoid in the name but omits the arthritis part, and considering it is NOT arthritis, this makes sense!

There have been suggestions of name change so you would need to check with NRAS as I have some feeling that there was a petition at some stage....

Love,
Amanda
HellyC
#13 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 3:18:24 PM Quote
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lizziemouse wrote:
Hello there Helly... what does ETA mean? xx


Edited to Add..... means if you forget to put something on a post and edit.. just lets people know that you've 'edited to add'
Helly x

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amanda_lewin
#14 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 3:20:24 PM Quote
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You mean like a 'PS' to technophobes?! LOLOL
HellyC
#15 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 3:37:32 PM Quote
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Exactly! LOL
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Anthea1948
#16 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 5:51:59 PM Quote
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I think that changing the name is an excellent idea, but I also think that it could take a long, long time. Still, all we can do is try, and if enough of us sign our names then someone, somewhere, might just sit up and take notice.

Anthea x
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#17 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:18:02 PM Quote
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So rather than change the name.... why don't we change peoples perception, raise awareness that arthritis isn't just for the elderly...

Don't want to be difficult here, Helly, but isn't this EXACTLY what NRAS are doing and have been doing for years?
amanda_lewin
#18 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:21:02 PM Quote
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I vote we do both!

LOL

Having grown up with this disease, I think the name is very important, as this is what people hear first, making their own perceptions and opinions.....

NRAS are incredibly important to support too as they are our public voice.

Amanda
helen-g-1
#19 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:29:33 PM Quote
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Well thanks for your replies - interesting discussion. So far it looks like the majority are broadly in favour of a name change, that the favoured term is something like "rheumatoid disease" and that this is being used by some consultants anyway. Amanda - I'll ask NRAS when they're back next week if they've had a petition and if so what happened to it and what they feel about another one, if the previous one lapsed.
I agree it's difficult to find a name that encompasses all the problems people can have, so maybe we have to petition for something general like "rheumatoid disease" which just excludes the "arthritis" bit that causes most people to get the wrong end of the stick. I can understand Helly's reservations however.
If the same concensus exists by next week, and after I've spoken to NRAS, I'll investigate how we might set about it, and post a plan of campaign. At least it will keep me out of mischief (and the shops) during January.
Linda - welcome! There is a page in the booklet that NRAS send you when you join, that has about 7 short information points about what RA is and isn't. I photocopied this page and went through it with my new manager, and she has taken it on board I think.
Helen
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#20 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:37:30 PM Quote
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Yes, a name change would help people to realise its not just like grannies bad back etc. We should obviously continue to raise awareness of the disease, and all it entails, this is a very long haul too!
The reaction I get is what is the difference? when told I have RA and its different to OA. After explanation they look a bnit surprised, but still think its just something that will go away in time. So, yes, lets do both! Smile
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